Discussion: If Jesus died for our sins, why do we still sin?
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This is a question my friend asked. So the thing is when we were still sinners Jesus died for our sins right, and yet we still sin! So if we still sin we are then still sinners, and if we are still sinners does Jesus’s sacrifice mean anything? And another is if Jesus died for our past, present, and future sins then does that mean we are perfectly clean, and if we are how come we still sin, sometimes on accident and sometimes even on purpose?
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At March 14, 2026, 6:06 p.m. Real_The_Founder said: This is an important question, but the explanation may prove to be very complicated to understand. So, listen carefully, and try to understand what is going to be explained.
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At March 14, 2026, 6:10 p.m. Real_The_Founder said: We still sin because we have not been perfected in the love of God. We still sin because we have not yet been perfectly conformed to the image of the Son. Salvation by faith in Christ is indeed a process, as God has worked through processes throughout human history, as one can tell from the story of Israel. It takes some time and effort to be fully conformed to the image of the Son, and so become partakers of the Divine Nature, and so sin no more. We make mistakes yes, and we sin, but simply because we have not yet been perfected in God's love just yet. That's the answer to the first part of the question. However if you do need a more detailed explanation, just tell me.
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At March 14, 2026, 6:26 p.m. Real_The_Founder said: To answer the second part of the question, Jesus' sacrifice is indeed very much powerful and meaningful to the faithful in Christ, but to the fools, hypocrites, and people of the evil one, they do not understand the significance of the sacrifice of Christ our Lord. Let me explain why Jesus' sacrifice is valid, and the Church has a lot to do with it. We know that Christ himself instituted the Holy Church, so we know for a fact that he knows how to purge us and cleanse us of our sins. Yes, on the cross when he was crucified, he took upon himself all the sins of the world, and destroyed it by death. He took upon himself all the sins of humanity, from the oldest known past to the farthest future, and destroyed it by his one and for all sacrifice. We know that God transcends time like this. However, the question of if we are already perfectly clean, the answer to that is found in the Church that Christ himself instituted. In the Holy Church, there is a sacrament called Confession, and in this Holy Sacrament, people confess their sins to God himself, with the priest in the presence only acting as a witness to the Confession. In doing this Holy Sacrament, they are basically telling Christ himself the sins they have committed against him. When all the sins have been confessed, the priest acting as witness can freely choose to forgive the confessor, or not to forgive the confessor, based on his Apostolic Authority (Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven). If the priest so chooses to forgive the person, they are truly forgiven of their sins, and what sins they confessed in a sense goes directly to Christ crucified on the cross, so it may be abolished and destroyed forever. If however the priest binds the sin against the confessor, the sin is bound to them, which separates them from God, until they do their penance and then they can be forgiven. This is what happens in Holy Confession basically. We still stumble and sin, but reconciliation is always available in Holy Confession, because it is there that we receive God's forgiveness, which is wonderful, and our sins are truly taken away. If you need another question though, talk to a priest, or consult the Church itself. If you need some more explaining, just say the word.
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At March 15, 2026, 3:01 p.m. Bleed_For_Love said: Thank you for explaining this difficult concept! I’m starting to get more of it now, that even though Christ has perfected it all on the cross we are still in a process. However I do have one question, which is this; what if the priest says no and binds the sin to the confessor? Is it then bound forever? And if it is, can a priest then “separate” a person from God? A prime example of this is Judas, who confessed to the chief priests and elders for ratting Jesus out, and he even felt sorry enough to return the money back, however the priests and elders there was like nope!- we can’t forgive you, and yet I can’t help but think if Judas TRULY confessed to Jesus in his heart (since Jesus died for everyone’s sins, that is; those willing to repent) he would’ve been saved, before he hanged himself. I know these are hard questions to answer so if you need to be brutally honest please do so, and correct me if I may have misunderstood some things.
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At March 15, 2026, 10:34 p.m. Real_The_Founder said: There is one thing I left out on accident when talking about Confession, and that is the Penance that the Priest gives to the confessor. When the Priest hears the Confession, then he gives the penance to the sinner, that is what the sinner must do in order for this sin to be forgiven before the prayer of absolution (prayer that forgives the sinner and absolves the sins just confessed). For example, if you stole something and then confessed it to the priest, the penance would usually be to give that back and then receive God's forgiveness. If the sinner does the penance, they are forgiven and their sin is absolved through Christ's Sacrifice on the Cross. However, if then they do not do the penance, that is when the priest binds the sin against them, and those sins stay binded to the sinner until the sinner does their penance and then receives God's forgiveness from the Priest. If the sinner never does their penance, a choice they made by their own, that sin stays bound to them, and they are separated from God in that way. So in the case that the priest bounds the sin against the sinner, the sin stays bound to the sinner until they carry out their penance. God's forgiveness is available to everyone on earth, but repentance from sin and penance are key to receiving that wonderful gift. For Judas, the chief priests and scribes really did not have authority to forgive by God's authority. Judas fell into despair, meaning he thought there was no forgiveness, which is a dangerous lie. Yes, he felt that feeling of repentance in his very being, but if he were to be truly repentant, he would have not killed himself, but rather seeked Jesus and asked forgiveness from Jesus himself, for Jesus did have the authority to forgive sins. Deep question I know, and this is the only answer I can give at this late hour, but I hope that this answers your question.
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At March 17, 2026, 7:41 a.m. Bleed_For_Love said: Thank you so much. This really helps me a lot. What you said there is really true. We need to repent, and truly repent, to be forgiven, which is shown through actions and not just words alone. Because we can pray and say all the words to be “forgiven”, but once the time comes, and the bad fruit of the action comes out, it shows it is not indeed true repentance. Thanks again!
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